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The Late Work Debate
Replied Nov. 8, 2009
The Late Work Debate
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The Late Work Debate
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Started this discussion. Last reply by Amy Cody Nov. 30, 2009.
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I am using the idea that I got from someone on this Ning- I assign all homework two grades- one grade is for the assignment and a 10 point grade is assigned to timeliness. They lose a point every round I grade (and I am ALWAYS grading, folks....) an…
Hi Alyssa,
We've had it in place for two years and it is not without its hurdles. Since homework is in the work ethic category, many students don't do it. Parents like the clarification, but some wish the extra credit of the past could pad those gr…
This reply tackles a few of the issues already presented, and offers a couple other suggestions.
1. Read Robert Marzano's Classroom Assessment and Grading That Work. It will answer all of your questions. It totally changed what I had been doing in…
This reminds me of how much I hate powerpoints. I would really love to know how having a lecture on slides and reading it aloud to students is more worthwhile than lecturing and writing on a chalkboard. I'm very aware that powerpoints can do much mo…
Penny,
Thanks for contributing to this discussion. What a fantastic system! I love that your students have consequences for irresponsible behavior but that those consequences do not interfere with their learning opportunities or the measurement of…
Alyssa, your serious, thoughtful approach to this is inspiring. Thank you.
For those of you interested in the skewed system of giving 0's, consider the intervals between grades. 10-9-8-7-6-0. Read Wormelli's book, Fair Isn't Always Equal. Our high…
Our school system has an interesting twist on this debate. Students are not allowed to take a test on a unit unless all the work is done at a satisfactory level. [Teachers get to say, "I need evidence that you are ready to succeed on the test and wi…
This has been a fascinating discussion. As an Australian teacher with a very different grading system it has been interesting to compare the many different ways of approaching the issue, as well as recognizing that it is a 'world-wide' issue, or may…
What a great idea. I like the one minute detention per point of homework. I have some kids who might benefit from that--one whose mom teaches in my department so transportation shouldn't be an issue there:)
Sometimes, usually during a parent conference when the parents are telling me that I need to accept all the kid's late work from the beginning of the year until now because it's hurting his grade and he wants to go to USC or Stanford, I equate late…
What about NO Name on their papers? This is my personal pet peeve! At first (I teach at a privtae school and when there is a no-name paper I Know whose it is) I gave 0s (harsh to students). Now I take 10 points off nd if they are hanging around afte…
In order for me to accept late work, I require them to spend one minute of after-school Academic Detention with me per point value of the work (luckily we have an online grading program so kids and parents can always see points possible...and thus m…
When was the last time your pay check was reduced to 0 or cut in half or even chopped 10% for every minute you were late?? What happens when you are late to work?
I once had a job that paid $X.X0 per hour. If during an entire pay period (two weeks)…
I posted this comment somewhere else on this board, but I'm going to repeat it,
A friend of mine recently started teaching at a another school. Their policy is that late work is not an academic issue, and therefore students should not be punished a…
Ron --
And what if these students are seniors? Is this preparing them for the college experience where, if I recall, there are specific deadlines with stringent penalties for late work.
Colleges already think high school grades are an inflated jok…
Wow. My department has a zero-policy for late daily work, but reading this makes me wonder....
But I am positive that if assignments were optional, a majority of my students would simply blow-off any or most of them and hang on until the bitter, na…
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- At 5:01pm on November 2, 2009,
tony romano said…
- Alyssa,
So glad to hear from you! I had no doubt you would bring your portfolio with you. I have no idea how to work this ning. Looks confusing to me. So I will apologize ahead of time if I am rude and don't respond. I'm on FB, and that seems easier to navigate.
We're putting together a WW cookbook. If you cook or know someone connected to WW who can submit a recipe, we'd love to hear from you. The book is a recipe book but it will also be filled with stories/essays/poetry, some right within the recipe itself. So think about it. Only problem is that we would need this in the next 10 days or so. The books will go on sale in February. I know you want one!
That last paragraph was pasted from a note I sent to Adam Babcock, who just added me as a "friend." Is that the term on here?
Good luck with the subbing. Exciting. I know you'll do well. I hope it turns into a full time job!
Tony (a little weird, I know)
- At 6:25pm on February 24, 2009,
Gary Anderson said…
- Thanks for your comment on the Writers Week blog! Please let me know if I can be helpful to you during student teaching or what comes after.
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I really like "Out of the Dust" by Karen Hesse. It is short and I think very accessible for struggling students. It won the Newberry Medal. Not only did it help me understand what the big deal was about the duststorms of the time, I thought it told…
And what about the fact that often writers don't know what their thesis is until they begin reflecting in writing about a subject or occurrence? Happens to me all the time.
Thank you so much everyone! I definitely have a better feel for how essential questions work. I've been able to brainstorm a few and included a few here. Feel free to tell me if I am way off base.
What does it mean to be an “Outsider”?
What makes…
Judith--
One opportunity is Teen Ink (http://www.teenink.com). This is a publication for teens only, ages 13-19, to submit and publish their work. The one draw back I found is that once accepted, Teen Ink keeps all rights to the work. This means ki…
Bill,
You have it wrong. I didn't say the theory has not had wide influence. I never said anything like that. I agree that it has had wide influence. What I said was I've never heard of teachers labeling themselves as constructivists or nonconstruct…
The Ugly Truth is that my number one goal for my students right now has to be to raise their 2010 standardized test scores.
I find it disturbing, off-base, heart-wrenching, and almost something shameful to admit. However, NCLB has my entire school'…
I am in search of a novel set during the Great Depression/Dust Bowl era. It will be used in a 10th grade history class; most of the students are struggling readers. The teacher would like to stay away from the "big name classics." He wants something…
Yay Doug! He was one of my teachers in pre-teaching grad school (itp.nyu.edu), and I'm a huge fan of his work. Thanks for posting this, Frank. I'm really excited to see what these guys have come up with this time.
I am looking for opportunities for high school students to publish their writing. I am in VT. We are part of the NWP and can certainly offer that to our students. I know about the Mountain Review, but I would really appreciate other venues where stu…
Oh, a marvelous poem, Carol -- by one of my favorite poets. In graduate school far back in the 60's, I took a creative writing class from Bly at the University of Kansas, and have never forgotten it. Thanks for the connection.
I actually do have a plan (I also have a yearly book filled with objectives). I just can't say I have a detailed plan. I found it easier to plan for 90 minute block lessons than the 45 minutes we have at this school which makes me feel like I am in…
Oh I do! I just had a tutorial with a final year student, who thank me for introducing her to philosophy. It's just that the rest of it sucks up so much time.
Andy,
The fact that you have not heard of it doesn't mean the theory has not had a wide influence. Nearly every school of education in America now promotes "constructivist" ideas, and it is why many of our student teachers are not receiving some of…
How about this for a poetic connection to your posting, Hamilton?
Gratitude to Old Teachers by Robert Bly
When we stride or stroll across the frozen lake,
We place our feet where they have never been.
We walk upon the unwalked. But we are uneasy.…
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